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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:51 am  Reply with quote
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Not sure if I've ever seen a catch like that, not even Luke Graham. Merry Xmas 83.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:56 pm Reply with quote
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Back at ya, Zap.  See you at the rink for the Larrys on the 20th.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:39 pm Reply with quote
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Very happy (and a bit surprised) to see Sam Houston get crushed. Those spread offenses go down hard when things go bad. Amazing how teams can get blown out in the playoffs. Can't imagine that Lehigh was that much worse than UNH or that UNH was that much worse than JMU.

For sure a strange season in 2016. Position-by-position, the team may have actually been better than the 2015 team--they averaged 31 points on offense and gave up an average of 23 on defense. The 2015 team averaged 25 on O and (rounding up) gave up 29 on D.

I think the big difference was what the O did on 3rd and 4th down (or at least the situations the found themselves in on those downs) in 2016. The 2015 offense converted in series that went to 3rd or 4th down 58% of the time. The 2016 offense converted series that went to 3rd or 4th down 42% of the time. So even though the 2016 offense averaged more points a game, they had a much harder time sustaining drives. I think this is why you saw Colgate losing leads in so many games. The team became a big play team (even averaging a half a yard more per carry) but had a harder time picking up the three yards a carry that makes the offense go--and allows Colgate to finish games (like they did in 2015). Melville was 10th nationally in yards per completion with 14.38 and most guys on offense had plays for huge gains. What seemed to be missing was the ability to pick up three yards on most plays and two yards when they really needed it. The other obvious problem was the end of the first half and the beginning of the third quarter. Momentum is a tricky thing and they seemed to give it up right on either side of the half. Just a bunch of games where they let teams back in games at the end of the second or let games get away in the third. Just odd lulls and bad luck and maybe not making the right adjustments at half--just strange as much as anything.

It will be interesting to see what the team is like next year. They are losing so many good players on D--but the depth seems to be there. I think the D line should still be very good and should be able to get after the passer. Rocket looks ready to step in as a playmaker. Holland back on O should help with the three yards. The obvious big question mark is what happens at QB. There are some very good recruits stacked up. I think this will be the year when you really see what scholarships means. A lot of this year's seniors were starting early in their careers because there wasn't must depth in the classes ahead of them--but now with five years of scholarship guys, you should have very good juniors and seniors who haven't gotten as much playing time stepping up (at least that's the hope). Lehigh and Fordham should both be better and Lafayette should be much better with Frank gone. Can't imagine Colgate being picked higher than third or so in the preseason polls but I think the upside for the team is very high.
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2016 recap and look ahead.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 5:35 pm Reply with quote
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very good analysis imo.  the 2-3 yard issue was HUGE.  We also did not vary our play calling enough to get the defense off guard.  2017 is a big question mark due to the qb situation.  I certainly with we had given the backups more time last season to show their stuff.  Due to that the job is wide open with first years having a very good chance to win the job.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 5:50 pm Reply with quote
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Agreed that it would have been great to give some younger guys some time at QB. Would assume that losing four of the nine games where you had the lead at half would make it hard to not have your starter out there.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:21 pm Reply with quote
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you could have substituted at Yale,Bucknell and perhaps Lafayette.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:26 pm Reply with quote
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For sure Yale. (Attwood did play a couple of plays). The other two were after the Cornell game--which at one point was on its way to being an absolute blowout. That being said, I do agree with you about getting QB's some time. Thought it might happen after seeing Attwood play against Syracuse.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:53 am Reply with quote
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James Madison-Youngstown State game this Sat @ 12 PM (ET) if anyone's interested. This is the FCS final. Should be interesting to see what JMU is all about. They have clobbered every team in the tourney thus far, including UNH and Sam Houston State, and N. Dakota State.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:15 pm Reply with quote
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The JMU Dukes are National Champions, 28-14 over YSU. Who knew going in to the season JMU would win the title? I know it wasn't on my radar... Shocked
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Colgate and UNC
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In JMU's last 18 games, their only losses were to Colgate and a 8-win North Carolina team which beat Florida State. The Dukes dominating win for the national title makes Colgate's win last year perhaps the best over the the last half century IMO after the 23-0 shutout of Rutgers in 1977.

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