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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 5:23 pm  Reply with quote
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Hmm, maybe, I tried to verify it in the Salmagundi and they list it as a 6-0 win... Do I believe the yearbook or the Madisonensis article written just after the game?  Question  Idea  Confused




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Confirmed as a loss thanks to the October 13, 1900 edition of the Rochester Democrat and Chronicle:


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For what it's worth, Ellery Huntington's book Fifty Years of Colgate Football 1890-1940 lists the scores 6-0 over Colgate Academy for both games in 1900.
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I'm guessing the crew that put that together probably just went off the Salmagundi. Found another article that confirms it as a loss. This from the Utica Herald-Dispatch the day after the game:


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This confirms for me that they just went off the Salmagundi. 1899 Sal recap (and Huntington's book, and the school's current records) does not list a game (a win!) over the Colgate Academy. Thankfully, this removes any impact that my previous find had on overall win total/milestone wins...




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Another previously unreported game from 1898. A 6-6 tie with Hamilton on October 1. Colgate would play them again in November.



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Figured this might be an appropriate place to post this story as we try to piece together football history.  Who's to say the Academy didn't call in the wrong result just to screw with us?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/16...ery-play-was-a-fake.html?emc=eta1

It's a great story that I had not heard before.  Enjoy!
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Still going through this. Just have 1920-1939 left to go. Found a new record for longest punt in Colgate history. Current reported record is 83 yards by Jerry Andrewlavage against Rutgers in 1977. Here is the write up of Joe Hoague's 86 yard punt against Cornell in 1940...


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Happy to say that I finished this. Or as much as I can finish it...

Feel free to download the documents here:

http://www.colgatefootballcollection.com/early-years.html

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Pretty amazing all of the things you found--a lot of changes in longest plays. Begs the question, who do you trust more, the people in charge of the record books for Colgate or the newspaper writers? I'm sure both got it wrong a few times. In these days of instant replay, seems like football needs conclusive evidence to overturn calls. Will be interesting to see how much history you rewrite (and how much you can rewrite).

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