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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:27 am  Reply with quote
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Pretty amazing all of the things you found--a lot of changes in longest plays. Begs the question, who do you trust more, the people in charge of the record books for Colgate or the newspaper writers? I'm sure both got it wrong a few times. In these days of instant replay, seems like football needs conclusive evidence to overturn calls. Will be interesting to see how much history you rewrite (and how much you can rewrite).


Yep, school/local/national newspaper accounts are definitely not as accurate as today. Early reports seemed to round everything to the nearest 5 yard line. Anything major I tried to get multiple sources to confirm it (though they may not all be pictured in the doc). But I am still unsure about a few things: was the yardage reported for some players true rushing yardage or more along the lines of today's all-purpose yardage stat? Was the yardage on punts tracked from the line of scrimmage or where the ball was kicked from? etc. For the 295 yard game by Tryon there were multiple reports of that yardage and he did not have any notable kickoff returns. In a 1925 game he was reported as having 316 yards rushing, but I believe that was due in part to two 85 yard kickoff returns for TDs. For the 86 yard punt by Hoague the paper's were very specific about the line of scrimmage and where the punt ended up.

I am much more confident in the scoring leaders part. I made sure everything checked out with the total points the team scored for each year.

In any event, a fun little exercise that has left me with those documents as well as a game story for (almost) every single game from 1890-1944 saved on my computer.


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Holy cow that's a lot of work. Have you talked to anyone at Colgate about them using it in any sort of official way? Would imagine they are aware of it/make up about half of the posters on this board.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:34 am Reply with quote
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The Future wrote:
Holy cow that's a lot of work. Have you talked to anyone at Colgate about them using it in any sort of official way? Would imagine they are aware of it/make up about half of the posters on this board.


Yup, in the beginning I was in communication with John Painter and Bob Cornell. I was bugging them almost daily with stuff to add/change etc. I finally decided to just hold off until I was done. Sent everything over to them last night and told them they can use it however they'd like to. When I started I just wanted to get the scoring leader for each missing year, so hopefully they will fill that gap in.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:06 am Reply with quote
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Seems like it's time for The Scene to do an article about you rewriting the history books and maybe not rewriting them. (The story is in the pursuit as much as the results.) Be sure to post what gets changed or why stuff doesn't.

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