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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 9:03 pm  Reply with quote
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Agree with the thrilling PL championship at Lehigh!  Their cupcake record was misleading...and their absence from the playoffs proved it.  It was a lesson to us all.

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I went to Army in I think 1983, our  kicker kicked five field goals and we won  15-13. It was about 90 degrees, concessions stands actually ran out of water, soda etc. They were literally carrying fans out of the stands.
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I was there for that one too, Zap.  Hosted a party back at my parents afterwards that went very deep into the night... remember my youngest brother, who was 14 at the time, wondering if my pals ever went to sleep!
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I agree on UNH not being as strong as past UNH teams. As for them being in the playoffs, they were probably about as deserving as 6-5 Western Illinois--meaning neither would have gotten in most years. UNH though won't go down as one of the program's great wins but it (hopefully) shows the direction Colgate's headed.

Also, Mike Powers five field goals against Army still stands as the FCS record for most field goals in the first game of a career (might still be Div 1 record but couldn't find it).
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Gate '83, I think you are mixing up the 1982 Holy Cross game, which was televised by ABC at home before a sellout crowd on a beautiful October  afternoon (we won 21-17), with the Temple game about a month later, which was played on a bitterly cold day before about 4,000 fans (we won 24-17).  Both were great wins.

That 1977 Rutgers game, before a crowd that has been estimated at 18,000 (full stands in both end zones and standing room tix sold) has to be up there with Colgate's greatest wins, but 2003's run to the NCAA I-AA Championship Game probably is at the top.  Three wins in three weeks against the best that I-AA had to offer.....
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go'gate wrote:
It was questionable that UNH even BE in the playoffs this year given their record.  Not to slight Colgate, but we didn't catch them having one of their best seasons.  If I recall correctly, someone at UNH was on the FCS selection committee...surprise. surprise.  We can't have the gold standard NOT make their record-10th postseason playoff appearance, after all.  Glad their season - and old stadium - ended on a sour note.  UNH has had the PL's number.

Were there any away games that were monumental events, like a win at Rutgers that anyone remembers?!


42-0 at Rutgers in 1973, when Parr and VanEeghen ran wild and our defense completely shut down JJ Jennings, the nation's leading rusher (who would be co-MVP of the upstart World Football League a little over a year later).

14-9 at Garden State Bowl-bound Rutgers in 1978. RU was 9-1 going in (only loss to Penn State, which played Alabama for the NC) and Colgate was 2-8, rebuilding after the great 1977 season.  Bitter cold and windy day in New Brunswick but our defense was very stout and Marzo and Mancini produced sufficient offense to win.  ABC-TV and the NY Times called it the upset of the year in Eastern College Football.
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Catching up with the posts. I was at many of the games mentioned, will comment.

Colgate 31 - Penn State 0, 1932.   I was not at this game, but Penn State was weak in 1932. Much more impressive was Colgate's 7-0 win in their next game with the Nittany Lions, 9 years later in 1941, our 4th consecutive win over Penn State. That was only one of 5 Penn State losses over 4 seasons. PSU would finish 1941 with consecutive wins over Syracuse, West Virginia, Pitt, and USC.

Colgate 24 - Temple 17, 1982.   While wins over Army in front of 40,000 or Rutgers teams with gaudy records may have been sexier, Temple may have been the strongest team we beat since I was a student. They only had about a .500 record coming into the game, but played one of the strongest schedules in the country then. That year they had beaten Syracuse, shut out a Delaware team 22-0 that would go to the I-AA championship game, and routed Louisville and Cincinnati. The week before they lost to #17 ranked West Virginia on a long last second FG, and had also lost to #1 and #2 ranked Penn State and Pitt in games they were leading in the 4th quarter. Owls coach Wayne Hardin resigned after the loss to Colgate, and made some ridiculous comments Colgate fb fans would quote for years to come - "nobody, not Penn State or Pitt, controlled the line/ball the way Colgate did against us", or some such. I once suggested to Fred Dunlap that the Temple win may have been the best team he beat, but he disagreed, saying the Rutgers wins were against stronger teams. Who am I to disagree with Fred? But still I wonder...

Colgate 21 - Holy Cross 17, 1982.  Yes I think the poster is confusing this game with the Temple game. The HC game had the largest crowd at Kerr except for the 1977 Rutgers game, and portions were televised on ABC-TV (not the entire game since there was a rain delay during the AL championship series). Both the Temple and HC wins were top-25 all-time Colgate wins, IMO. Unfortunately they framed a 3-game losing streak against Rutgers, Syracuse, and Ivy champ Penn, caused in large part because the Colgate administration, petrified by the attention our fb program was getting, decreed they we couldn't go to the playoffs when we were ranked #1 in the country in our first year in I-AA. Even with the huge distraction, the losses to Rutgers and Penn were somewhat fluky. I have always wondered what would have happened that year if our administration had done what virtually every other in the country would have in our position (enjoyed the season!) Two out of 3 wins or even one would have made us a much higher seed in the playoffs and we could quite possibly have won the I-AA title in our first year in that category. Tiger Dunlap's book "The Dunlap Rules" sheds some light on this period, and unfortunately it confirms the worst we imagined about it.

To be continued...
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Colgate 15 - Army 13, 1983.   I was there, and yes it was hot as hell. I was doing a medical rotation in Manhattan at the time, and there was quite a build up and great deal of attention paid this game by the NY papers. Teams didn't start their seasons on Aug 29th like today. This early Sept game was a top Eastern match-up, perhaps the Eastern college fb game that weekend. Colgate had been named the top team in I-AA by Sports Illustrated a couple of weeks before, and was a slight favorite to win. We outplayed Army, but needed a late drive, including converting a couple of 4th and longs, to get into position for the winning FG. Mike Powers held the record for many years for most FGs in a first game by a freshman. He may still hold it. He made 5 out of 6 that day. He only made 3 FGs his entire high school career. While it was a fabulous win, I think the win over Army in 1987 was more impressive. Army turned out to have a weak team in 1983. They were much stronger in 1987, and we were 19 point underdogs. Both Army wins in the 80s were top-25 alltime IMO.

Colgate 35 - Lehigh 24, 2012.   Agree this was perhaps the best non-playoff win since 2000. The disgraceful forfeiture of home field against Wagner, resulting in an unexpected playoff loss, overshadowed this great victory. I actually think our 28-24 victory over Lehigh in 1999, also resulting in a PL title, was even better. This was Lehigh's only loss in 47 regular season games spanning 5 years, not including 3 playoff wins. I attended that game, where we came back from a 17-0 deficit.

Colgate 27 - New Hampshire 20, 2015.  I agree with posters that this was not one of Colgate's greatest alltime wins, as satisfying as it was. UNH was not that strong in 2015, and arguably should not have been in the playoffs. This was the only playoff win in the PL era that I expected (despite our loss to them during the season). The 44-38 win against James Madison the following week, however, was completely unexpected to me. IMO it is as good as any win in the last few decades since the Dunlap era. The game was close because of special teams; statistically we completely outplayed them. JMU has been a marquee team in FCS the last 10-12 years. They beat FBS SMU last year, and ACC champ Va Tech a few years ago, and of course won a national title about a decade ago.

Colgate 23 - Rutgers 0, 1977. IMO this victory is in a class by itself, the most impressive Colgate victory since FDR's first term. It is clearly a top-5 alltime win.  I agree with go 'gate that the 3 consecutive playoff wins in 2003 were our most impressive 3 straight wins ever.

Colgate 42 - Rutgers 0, 1973.  Colgate had lost to Rutgers by 30 the year before, and by 41 the year after. Mark van Eeghen ran for 259 years. In the decade from 1971-1980 Rutgers played Penn State, Alabama, Tennessee, West Virginia, Arizona State, Syracuse, and all service academies, among others. They were only shutout twice - 42-0 in 1973 and 23-0 in 1977, both to Colgate.

Colgate 14 - Rutgers 9, 1978.  We were 29.5 point underdogs. I think this was the biggest Colgate upset ever (any other contenders for this distinction?) Rutgers was 9-1 with their only loss a competitive one to top ranked Penn State. They had been publicly boasting all week that they would run up the score against Colgate to "payback" for the 1977 and 1976 games. For the second season in a row a loss to Colgate cost Rutgers a chance at a national rankings. This was only the 5th Rutgers loss over 3 years, with 2 to Penn State and 2 to Colgate. I got home in time to hear Dave Diles on the ABC college football scoreboard show call this game the biggest college football upset in the country that year.
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 8:03 am Reply with quote
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Great work, so fun to read and remember back. In 1977 the Rutgers game was particularly great because we got screwed on Thanksgiving in a nationally televised Turkey day game by official Jerry Markbreit who became head of NFL officials.  
Then Rutgers was our first game and we smoked them. 23-0
Bleachers were set up in the end zone, it was sold out, I can't remember any other soldout games in Hamilton. Just over 10,000 I believe, someone previously said 18,000 but no way could that happen.
BTW, before Rutgers beat us we were #20 nationally in D1.
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 8:08 am Reply with quote
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The Rutgers games were back to back, the loss was in 76 on Turkey day and the win was our opener the next year.

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